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Twodogs

Since 2002 there have been many high water events on the Snohomish system and I know they must have big effect on inriver survival, so what do you see in fry counts after these years (almost every year since 2002).

Our sport success has been dropping since around 2000, much of this may be due to run timing, most of us target Coho until the end of Oct, so we may be missing what now is the peak of the run. Plus with early fish typically spawning higher in the system and with no late fish to speak of, there are no fish lower in the system where in the 90's we did so well. Your counts would then hold true in an increase, or at least a good number of fish in the system, but in the lower river where later fish tend to spawn and where it may be more difficult to count, the river is barren.

If these lower river fish had never been counted as accurately as the ones up higher, then half the run could be gone and the numbers counted wouldn't change much. The fry counts would drop though, so it would seem the escapement was good, but inriver survival poor.