4 Salt perhaps you don't think you are being partisan but you are trying to link me to the death panel argument. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else, or you think I am guilty by association. Go back and reread the thread, I did comment on rationing for the elderly, and posted the President's quote where he admitted it would happen. I also mentioned that I read the end of life counseling passage, but didn't make comment on that, so don't associate me with that. Like I said earlier in the thread the only real truth I see in this debate is that both sides are playing their little games trying to forward their agenda's.