Originally Posted By: Vic
Originally Posted By: 4Salt
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It's the easily debunked things like 'Death Panels' and 'pulling the plug on Grandma...


These are perfect examples.

Vic, Jerry et al... when I say things like "keep an open mind"... it's NOT that I'm tryin' to force the 'liberal' point of view on you guys... I'm just tryin' to make you see how ridiculous these right-wing talking points are from a LOGICAL standpoint... NOT a partisan one! beathead


4 Salt perhaps you don't think you are being partisan but you are trying to link me to the death panel argument. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else, or you think I am guilty by association. Go back and reread the thread, I did comment on rationing for the elderly, and posted the President's quote where he admitted it would happen. I also mentioned that I read the end of life counseling passage, but didn't make comment on that, so don't associate me with that. Like I said earlier in the thread the only real truth I see in this debate is that both sides are playing their little games trying to forward their agenda's.

That is the way I am seeing it as well, both sides are trying to sell their position and aren't exactly checking all the facts before they spew them, including the President with the comment yesterday that AARP has endorsed a plan. BTW, who is the idiot who planted the girl questioneer at Obama's town hall meeting? What a moronic thing to do, definitely doesn't help the Pres when it appears that questioners are being planted in the audience.

Most people do not have the time to sit down over a period of days or weeks and try and sift through a 3000 page proposal that isn't written in English because we have to actually work for a living. If Congress wants to get the public on board with some type of health care reform I would recommend that they keep it fairly simple and write it in plain English. Glad to see cocksucker has got the time and the aptitude to read 3000 pages of legalese, I have to find a way to generate funds so that we can keep the lights on.


Edited by DBAppraiser (08/12/09 09:06 PM)