Thanks Coley, I might take you up on that.

Yeah KK, at least not a bobber and split shot. Which takes us just about full circle again. I think my first line of departure in this thread was the reference to the Prom Dress flashabou pattern, being intended to simulate a plug, which led me to remark, why not just use a plug? The use of 2-handed rods has done a lot to blur the distinction between fly and conventional gear because they can effectively cast larger, bulkier, and heavier flies than most guys were willing to use with single hand rods. So now we have guys throwing what have become known as "half chickens," larger than Intruders at 6 - 8" or more.

BTW, when Paker wrote a page back about delivering a quote with a Thurston Howell accent (I think he was referring to Gilligan's Island? I'm not sure), that was the wrong character. The better reference is ol' H2O, Hale Harrington Orviston from "The River Why." It's a movie now, but came out as a novel in 1983 and is genuinely hilarious. Gus' dad is a level 5 or better ascot-wearing, tweed coat, cigar and Scotch high falutin' fly fishing magazine writer, and lets everyone know it. Gus' mom was a country girl raised on the banks of Orygun's Deschutes River and fishes worms. So Gus grows up in the tradition of eternal family squabbles over fishing methods, but he attains a synergistic fishing prowess greater than his mom and dad combined. If you haven't, read it. You'll bust a gut. It's way funnier than this thread.

Sg