#1030234 - 05/14/20 09:25 PM
Re: Can anyone stand a little good news?
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River Nutrients
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Well now that is some good news....
Thanks......maybe it will help the 2020 summer run steelhead......2019 was the worse I've seen in my 40+ years of chasing summer run steelhead, locally .
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#1030235 - 05/14/20 09:30 PM
Re: Can anyone stand a little good news?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/03/09
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Thanks for the info SB!
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#1030242 - 05/15/20 07:55 AM
Re: Can anyone stand a little good news?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7431
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
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That's good for us down here. But, the shift in PDO will crash Alaska. Not that they'll fish less, they'll just get less of their fish.
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#1030247 - 05/15/20 09:54 AM
Re: Can anyone stand a little good news?
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#1030257 - 05/15/20 02:07 PM
Re: Can anyone stand a little good news?
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 04/04/10
Posts: 199
Loc: United States
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Actually, Alaska has constrained the SEAK troll fishery from the PST max allowed when their own stocks were in trouble. They don't when its only nonAlaska stocks that are hurting.
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#1030431 - 05/19/20 07:55 PM
Re: Can anyone stand a little good news?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 01/17/04
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Loc: Sheltona Beach
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Thanks for the good news! That and the herring spawn bode well for the future.
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#1038236 - 09/17/20 12:52 PM
Re: Can anyone stand a little good news?
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Returning Adult
Registered: 06/23/04
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Where do you find the monthly values? The UW site I used to look at is no longer updated.
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#1057986 - 10/29/21 09:46 AM
Re: Can anyone stand a little good news?
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River Nutrients
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10/29/2021
Thanks.....I'd REALLY like to know Coho numbers, hatchery vs. wild. I understand it was my call to only fish above South Monty but what I did not expect was "guessing", a 10 to 1 ratio of wild over hatchery, some would say even a higher ratio.
I already posted elsewhere, that a never saw or heard of a boat, with 2 or more fishers, that limited the boat with hatchery fish. Got to be major model problems??
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#1057987 - 10/29/21 10:12 AM
Re: Can anyone stand a little good news?
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 02/24/00
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there just not clipping the number of fish they say they are..
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#1057988 - 10/29/21 10:49 AM
Re: Can anyone stand a little good news?
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Ah guys the harvest model is based on past commercial harvest by week or regulation ( Rec ). The numbers imputed to the harvest model are the agreed to forecast for run size numbers between the co managers.
What the harvest model does NOT reflect is wet falls which brings fish upstream early like this year or dry falls which they stack up and come in later. One very dry year I recall we did not get major movement for Coho until the 3rd week of November.
As to runsize guesses one is seldom right mid way for the reasons outlined. Combined NT and QIN are not that far off except for Chinook and again it rained early which messes with trying to get a flavor for things. NT's were up one week way down next then rain and back up again.
Always remember if fishing the Chehalis the Hatchery fish are proportionally way down because they are mixed with the upper Chehalis fish. Need to be on the Satsop to break the ratio to favorable. The Skook Mit fish are a later returning fish so Sept & Oct will have few marketed fish above Fuller Hill and backwards in H / W mix on the Chehalis as it is just 300k Coho smolt released in the upper basin.
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#1058001 - 10/30/21 10:56 PM
Re: Can anyone stand a little good news?
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Returning Adult
Registered: 09/27/08
Posts: 340
Loc: SWWA
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there just not clipping the number of fish they say they are.. BINGO!!! Anyone catch n releasing said wild fish noticed that the adipose fins are very small verses a "WILD" fish with a big adipose?
Edited by Misguided (10/30/21 10:57 PM)
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#1058009 - 10/31/21 10:25 PM
Re: Can anyone stand a little good news?
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Spawner
Registered: 02/06/03
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there just not clipping the number of fish they say they are.. BINGO!!! Anyone catch n releasing said wild fish noticed that the adipose fins are very small verses a "WILD" fish with a big adipose? Says a couple guys that have never done that work for a day in their lives...
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#1058011 - 11/01/21 10:07 AM
Re: Can anyone stand a little good news?
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 02/24/00
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yes a$$ swing iv'e clipped fish
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#1058052 - 11/07/21 07:59 AM
Re: Can anyone stand a little good news?
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
Registered: 11/24/03
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Most of the hatch coho went thru BEFORE the season opener on Oct 1
Wild fish with more protracted run timing are now dominating the run
Wild run is easily TWICE as strong as the preseason forecast.
It will be a GOOD escapement year for the fish
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