I noted that Mr. Garner included the time worn phrase "Grow the pie" in his remarks that we need to recover our wild Chinook and produce more hatchery Chinook to feed the orcas, have viable treaty and non-treaty commercial fisheries, and a productive recreational fishery.

In case some have not noticed, we in fact have been fighting over the crumbs of salmon for many years now. With habitat degradation outpacing habitat restoration 10 to 1 and reduced ocean survival rates, crumbs is all there will be far into the foreseeable future. 20 years of Columbia River and Puget Sound Chinook recovery should give people a clear sense of that. Since the future of PS Chinook is crumbs, and the only thing about Chinook numbers that isn't crumbs is the high quality lip service given to the myth of recovery, it is a natural and logical question to ask why we have two, both a non-treaty and treaty commercial salmon fishing fleet in WA, where we don't have enough Chinook for even a healthy recreational fishery. I think SB 5617 is long overdue.