After in and out listening. Thanks for those that participated. Understandably depressing where we are at. Correct me if I am wrong? For some reason. Seems to me, all the sudden... the last few years, I find it surprising the emphasis on early wild component returning winter runs, Dec & Jan time frame region wide? Especially in Boldt case areas where the tribes influence management. Those early wild runs were wiped out by tribal gillnets and written off by WDG/WDFW over the last 30+ yrs when the nets went in targeting the earliest returning fish. Hatcheries pumped up the early Chambers stock and local brood stock at the same time to support those tribal and recreational fisheries. I would argue that those early wild fish and there genetics in certain systems are all but gone except those originating from brood stock. Those populations have been depressed for all these years and now have become the major obstacle to having any kind of river recreational fisheries? WTF? Wondering how much the WFC and WSC lawsuit game is to blame? Do the tribes really want us off the river banks that bad? I take a deep breath and wonder if I will ever get to river fish my 55 yrs. of normal and accustomed waters for winter steelhead again.