Originally Posted By: jgreen
I’ve never gotten an actual answer without hyperbole…what if the state just says “forget it, we’ll just set our own seasons and you set yours.”

What happens? Sanctions? Does the big bad federal government sue an entire state? It’s not like they can just walk in and absolve a state…the state SHOULD just tell the tribe and feds to kick rocks. These fish are the property of the citizens of Washington state. We won’t be controlled by small interest groups or foreign nations.

They won’t…

I mean…if the “treaty” is broken…who is going to come at the state? What can they really do if a state wants to fish inside their borders?

Nobody has ever shown what actually happens when a state tells a tribe no, breaks a treaty, and tells the fed to stay home.

The closest thing I’ve seen to an answer is the fed shuts down funding for fisheries in Washington, especially hatchery fish. Oh no…whatever will we do without the federal money lol


I know I'm talking about salmon vs steelhead, but this action has been bantered about in the past when it was discovered that WDFW didn't have the proper "permits" from the Feds to actually enact yearly ocean salmon fisheries. WDFW has continued (as far as I know) to piggyback on the required Tribal permits rather than actually apply for the Federal permits to operate WA State salmon seasons in-house.

The current process ensures that the Tribes not only have the "upper hand" in the card game during the NoF process, but THEY control all the rules as well!! Excuses were given by WDFW such as; we may miss a complete salmon season if we seek out our own permit (who cares, the seasons are quite skewed at times), there aren't the resources available to pursue the application process (hogwash), and we have to be good co-managers with the Tribes and work together for the future of the fisheries (I'm sure the Tribes don't mind the way the pendulum is swinging...).

As to dreaming about the day that Susewind would "grow a pair" by telling the Tribes to go "pound sand"...IF that were to happen, that concept would last as long it has taken you to read my post. 'Ol Jaybo would be in Kelly's office (with the Liberal Commission in tow), demanding that he rescind his RACIST order against the good NATIVE people of Washington! There's no way that Insleeze will allow any compromisation to his "political machine", including some key contributors/benefactors (Tribes and politicians alike). Gotta follow the money here, and unfortunately, sportsmen are SO royally [Bleeeeep!]-d in this State it's just laughable!
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