Thanks for the reply Smalma. I think it's healthy to have these sort of discussions even if you don't always agree with the other side ... and I hope a few can use this a perhaps a future example of seeing how we can disgaree with turning it into a bashfest

One question if you will before we finish up:

We keep hearing that in the instances of stocks that have fallen on such hard times that much of the management's blame (whether it be AK, OR, BC, or WA) points towards ocean survival.
Why is it that these oceanic conditions have not appeared to affect populations across the board?? What makes the conditions different for the Puget Sound Stocks vs. a few of the OP stocks? From the best of my knowledge, we know little about their ocean distribution paterns as a whole when compared to salmon stocks ... it doesn't quite make sense to me!