John Kerry has the most liberal voting record in congress, Edwards is 4th on the list. I can't tell GoHarley, are you just trying to pull someone's leg or do you really believe a clown like Kerry who can't even decide what color shirt to wear in the morning? Kerry is far to the left where the counter culture also dwells. The KKK and White Supremacist groups are far to the right, also counter culture. How can you group hard working business men like fishermen and loggers with scum like the KKK? That is completely ridiculous.

I don't really see the problem with clearcut logging, it obviously isn't problem with low returning fish, since we have had some of the best returns of all time in the last couple years. Not all the vegetation is taken out anyway in a clearcut, and a couple years later the new trees are well rooted. On the other hand devastating fire caused by decades of misuse of public forests does cause serious problems, all vegetation is completely stripped from the land and heavy winter rains cause serious runoff and erosion. You can't do selective thinning when roads are not allowed in a forest (nice going Slick Willy). A fire that goes through a well managed forest will be much less devastating. It's a pretty simple formula that even a liberal should understand...less fuel=less intense fire.