This is a personal message, not related to WT or my position there.

I'm going to go a little too far and say that I am pretty much sick and tired of you grandpa. You have called me a liar one too many times. You have no idea what you're talking about, as usual. You like to traffic in inuendo and character assasination because you cannot rely on anything else. I said that the petition has nothing to do with WT. It doesn't. If you want to call me a liar, prove it, without making stuff up, which is your usual MO.

Implying that WT is behind Sam's petition because we have paid him in the past for his expertise makes as much sense as saying WDFW must be behind it because he used to work for them. It makes as much sense as 99% of your posts.

Anyone who had even an inkling of what he was talking about would know that Sam is about the most inedependent-minded guy you could meet, and does what he thinks is right, without any prompting from anyone. He knows more about fisheries issues than I will ever learn, and I would never presume to offer him any advice.

As I said, WT has not even had a chance to fully review Sam's petition, so I can not and won't speak to it's relative merits. But of course you're not interested in that either, because it would require the tiniest understanding of the issues at hand, and any capacity at all for critical thought. I'm only speaking to the relative merits of your contributions to this board and these discussions. They are by and large worthless and devisive, with little or no regard to the truth or reason. Since you call yourself grandpa, I assume you have grandchildren; they must be proud.

If this gets me booted from this board, it will have been worth it. But I would like to remind the moderators that I was the one called a liar (not for the first time), and that I can hardly be the only one here who holds this opinion.