Lets deal with the Kerry/Edwards voting for the war then not voting for any support for the war. They looked at the same evidence that Bush did when they cast their votes. So are they liars as well? I think they are even worse than liars. I think they did it for poll points for their campaigns at the time. Kerry for one did not want another protest vote against a war on his record going into the campaign. They wanted to cover all their bases which is refelected by their voting for the war then voting not to fund it. All designed not around a cause or not supporting a cause but for getting elected. Any vote for people like this is shameful at best.