No read what I said. I said how Christmas is clebrated has zero to do with religion God or the bible. It's an choice of man. No different than if the Pope decided to make a porn video. Yet the haters try to make it out to be some hypocrisy that gives them ammunition that the bible ,religon and god are all lies and fairy tales. I think the point of his thread was why clebrate it in any fashion or even acknowledge the event in any shape or form if you do not believe?