The way fish are automagically counted, it kind of cuts this whole debate off at the knees. How do we really ever have a bead on how many fish will show up in a river? Counting smolts to estimate adult returns isnt a viable method to draft policy on. User groups with financial incentives to automagically find and count reds when there aren't any? Please!

The data is really dirty, and will forever remain that way IMO. This issue alone will never allow good decisions to be made.