I used to fish the Quil and did quite well, but that fishery is gone to hell since the Tribal Trebles haunt every hole every day. There is no longer any chance to legitamately fish any part of the river. I tried a couple of times last year, but to no avail. I left sickened and never punched a fish from that river. The dungeness was only somewhat kinder, but all around, last year was far from really productive. I have not visited the Skok, and likely will not. Todd, not all folks who fish the rivers that you abhore do so in the manner that you describe.

It just may be that I'm glad there are such places. The people who participate in the mayhem at least are not where I am.....and I like that.
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