Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
Todd,

Many feel your pain. However, without an agreed to plan, the possibility is very real that NMFS would select the status quo. Nobody fishes; it's just so easy, and ESA listings provide the cover.

Sg


I am just fine with that...for now. Sporties spend far too much time being the ones who bear the brunt of the restrictions, while committing the least of the offenses.

If the proper response to "don't play with food" isn't "fuckoff", then what is it?

To be honest, saying "fuckoff" is a lot milder than how I feel about that ridiculous stance...especially since the tribes sure as hell aren't eating all the fish they catch.

What they really mean is "don't play with our money"...and I am telling them the exact same thing back.

Anyone here knows that I have spent plenty of time defending the tribes against unreasonable attacks on their treaty rights...but that doesn't mean I have to accept their bullschit name calling for the way we like to fish, and how we like to extract money from our share of the fish.

I still think that we as the recreational sector deserve a real number for what our release mortality is...and 10% is not it.

I have lots of friends and customers who are guides, but there's no doubt that guide restrictions are going to come along sooner or later. It's an easy way to reduce encounters and the guides are an easy target, like it or not.

I am not into the "fly vs. gear" debates so far as access to fish and waters goes, but I have noticed that fly guys are quick to get on the "no fishing under power" bandwagon to outlaw boondoggers...which I agree with, by the way...and the "no fishing from a floating device" bandwagon, since none of them but the bobber and jig guys...I mean "nymphers"...do that...but are oddly silent on outlawing themselves running up and down the river in sleds.

I'd be far happier to see power boats kept on lower rivers for the most part, and off the rivers entirely during wild fish only seasons.

We don't need the tribes to sign off on how/where/when we want to fish...yeah, we "co-manage", but that term has morphed into something that is a bastardization of anything like "co-managing" anything at all.

As long as we aren't taking more than our allotted half of the fish then their opinion matters to me exactly "zero"...approximately the same amount that my opinion of how they do it matters to them so long as they are not taking more than their half.

Why their opinion should matter more than ours is the fundamental problem with "co-management"...especially when their opinion on how we manage our half is such bullschit.

Fish on...

Todd
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