Originally Posted By: Carcassman


But, NOAA (at least used to) supports this when they set recovery harvest rates at X and actual fisheries at Y, where Y was greater the X. Don't see how you can fish harder than the rate needed for recovery (at least in theory) and expect recovery.


The sad reality is that the commercial harvest-oriented MSY mantra is so entrenched that the PST, PFMC, DFO, ADFG, NOF, WDFW, ODFW policy folks simply can't discipline themselves to the concept of capped total exploitation rates.

When I last took a look at PST Chinook technical committee data on CR tules, ESA has basically mandated total exploitation caps of ~38% during the past decade.

Actual exploitation has instead been running ~63% ! ! !

It's as if all the management folks just decided f'ESA and 38% exploitation... we'll shoot for 38% to the gravel instead.
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