Aunty M - ah the voice of sanity (didn't think I'd say that did you?) you are absolutely correct this time. It truly is scary. I've said a few things on this board that were critical of GW. Would that be enough for me to be dubbed a "suspected terrorist"? I'm afraid, after looking at Atty. Gen Ashcroft, that it just might in his mind. And with the attitude of "you are either with us or against us" we all, Liberals and Conservatives, Republican, Democrats, & others need to look long and hard at this. And please don't forget, the greatest Civil Libertarians of our country have been from all stripes of the political spectrum. Barry Goldwater and William O. Douglas come to mind, but there are many others.

Rich, I too agree with you most of the time in regards to fishing issues, but are you on crack? If the rest of the world or even a significant portion of it (say OPEC for instance) decided to take a stand against the US economically, it would be devastating. Devastating to all but we have so much farther to fall. Obviously we would not want that and we would protect our "national interest" militarily. And we can not make that fight work for us or the world. Read your history man, every superpower throughout time has gone through the ebb and flood of power. That ebb of power will happen to the US, why would we seek to accelerate it by pi**ing off everyone else?

But listen to Aunty - she is right. Wouldn't it be ironic if the largest terrorist attack on our liberty came from the man from Missouri?
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