Bentpole-

Thank you. I know when it comes to discussing state employees ethics and pay it tends to get a little heated on both sides. I know I try like h3ll to not take it personal or start taking jabs at others, but it is hard not to sometimes. I've seen my fair share of questionable work ethics by some state employees and even went so far as to discuss it with them. I don't know if it made a difference, but it was worth a shot. In all honesty, I think the majority of state employees are hard working and dedicated employees.

Food for thought for the board:
I'm bringing this up only to illustrate a point that what you see isn't always what it seems. Several years ago I was working on a project that involved working 12 to 14 hours a day and involved a lot of travel time. I was working by myself and had finished up for the week and was driving to the office. Now me personally, I'm not accustomed to getting up to work at 2 or 3 in the morning then working 12 or 14 hours so it was taking it's toll on me. I was probably 50 or 60 miles from the office and I was so tired I couldn't drive another mile.

It took me probably 15 minutes to debate in my head what I should do. To me it was a no-brainer, but I was more concerned about what someone might say if they saw me napping in my truck then falling asleep at the wheel and killing myself or for that matter someone else. Eventually I pulled onto an old logging road out of view and proceded to nap for an hour or so (off the clock of course). Now I can imagine what a hunter would've thought if they would've seen me, but what would folks expect me to do in the same circumstance? Personally I think I made the right decision and the risk of "being caught", was justifiable. In the same situation today, if I were to keep driving and fall asleep at the wheel and kill someone, I could go to prison for involuntary manslaughter.

Again, the whole point to me bringing this up was to illustrate what you see isn't necessarily what it seems. Now I'm not trying to defend those that are "milking the system", but I am trying to point out that sometimes there are legitimate reasons for doing things that don't exactly look kosher. I'll also add that although this thread has gotten heated a few times, but I think it's actually a pretty good thread for an OT thread.