Gotta agree with fishindude, ask a simple question, get flamed by the multitudes of "seasoned clique members" that have caught more fish than anyone on the planet, but cannot bear to divulge information that may allow someone with less time to spend fishing to catch a fish or two. We all make lifestyle choices, which may or may not involve a family, business, or what have you, but that to me seems like no reason to belittle anyone for asking simple questions. By the way, I tie my own leaders, cure my own eggs, and smoke & package my own catch, and by golly, pay taxes and vote like everyone else should. When looking at the content of this thread, I am left with the feeling that, for the most part, most of the posts have been tongue in cheek, while some have shown a hint of hostilty, seasoned with a touch of genuine elitism. For those that feel that this applies to them, watch out, we are coming to take a fish or two from YOU!