Originally Posted By: stlhdr1
Originally Posted By: Lead Bouncer
Originally Posted By: SBD



The rail has been losing money and they had to give up land right of way to help pay the bills.
Increase logging over the years has contributed to the slides. The Federal taxpayers have been pouring money into a losing business venture. Even the artificial raised bank to accommodate the rail is increasing the water speed and errosion.

Its a black hole.


You ever check out the Grays river? It's very similar. Logged to death all through the headwaters and slides every year. Heck if we get 3/4's of an inch of rain it goes to 1-2 feet of visibility and sometimes blows out color wise at regular flows.... Fact is, that river still meets escapement. Why? Doesn't have the steady fishing pressure of the rest of the readily available, easy accessable SW WA streams.... Beat the fish to death and you wipe them out.... SO don't preach to me about the habitat factor, its smoke up my ass... Although it has some merit, it's very little.

I won't be suprised when the seasons get shorter on rivers like the EF of the Lewis, Washougal, etc.... They get HAMMMERED..... The only thing that will save them is to cut the hatchery plants to next to nothing if nothing at all. At least that keeps the meat hunters at home.... But sadly enough, you cut the meat hunters you typically cut the gear boys out... For some screwball reason the bug chuckers try and take the river over..... Explain that?

Keith


Think about what that river could do with some "moderate" habitat improvement!! Those must be some incredible genes, or incredibly lucky genes. I'm not taking away from the "beat 'em to death" part, I'm adding to it. The numbers from late 1800s through mid 1900s bear that out just fine. But, geez, just give those suckers a landing spot and what could happen.

Bug chuckers are used to fishing but not catching, many of them anyway.


Edited by Doctor Rick (08/16/10 12:46 AM)