lets say the release mortality rate for gillnets is 40 percent and the gillnetters can net until they have reached there lets say 5 percent esa take rate and then they are done, now lets say the new method for commercials has a 10 percent release mortality rate and they still have the 5 percent esa take so now they will fish until they reach there 5 percent esa take amount and they are done, what i fail to see is how many esa listed fish they saved with the new lower release mortality rate other than zero, can you explain why the 40 percent release rate is so important and how many esa listed fish would be saved if infact they do go to a new method but still fish until there esa take rate is killed ?