see thats the exact opposite of what you told me... you told me that through an internship, if you can perform at the level expected, you would get the job over someone with a degree that didnt perform at your level...

which would translate to any trade, except things like doctors, welders, electricians, plumbers, ect where you have to have a certification or degree to do it...

and Breezy, this is where your stupidity is showing, im very good at framing and carpentry, as well as horticulture and botany, yet you, and your idiot "we" people say im not, i suck, i dont do it, i cant do it blah blah blah...

maybe you should STFU and think before you talk about someone you know nothing about...

anyways, ive got work to do, maybe you guys should stop posting on the internet all day and do it as well....