Salmo, has anybody tried the argument that since many PS steelhead stocks are not increasing under all this magnificent protection that they are actually at carrying capacity for the rivers as we prefer to manage them? And if they are at capacity, one can fish some.

Along the same vein, I once asked (at the Pacific Coast Steelhead Management Conference) if anyone had a steelhead data set (complete) that had an R/S greater than or equal to 1.0 for first time spawning fish. I couldn't find any and nobody offered up any. To my mind, that proved repeat spawners are critical. To at least some of the bios it proved that we were over-escaping. Again, time to fish if that's true.