Salmo, i said raise more fish. They still raise and stock like the 90s with not much effort to get to the root of the problem. Too many cooks in the kitchen. What's wrong with with wild broodstock programs? They have been shown to work well. And of course they like to raise the same fish they have been. Without, they'd be outta job. Everything you described is a big part of where we are today. The kids cant play nice together and the taxpayer gets bent. I swear i just said that. That is exactly why that why some fisheries are open. Wouldn't be nice if the state had the pride to tell the sportsmen why gh really is closed. Or would it put something else in the spotlight that the state doesn't want to be known by the general public. Im just trying to make 2and2=4, couldn't get it out of your statement salmo. Lots of finger pointing on the taxpayers dime. Cheers