I agree Spoon. If pure scientific data is missing, it seems at least some educated guesses could be made with brood stock programs. Facts we do know include, more eggs survive to hatch in the hatchery vs in the wild. More hatchlings survive to fry in a hatchery vs the wild. More fry survive to smolt in the hatchery vs the wild. If the goal is to have more survive, then you would think the hatchery is the place for that assistance on the front end. Once released, survival becomes a crap shoot. Wild fish spawning naturally, have more risks associated with their environment. It could be said, that is the problem? Taking natures sorting out of the equation. That is, only the strongest survive. I wonder if any of the program's currently going on, have developed a way to measure success or futility? I would think that would be a priority to quiet the naysayers and lawsuiters. BTW how come OR is not having issues with lawsuits?