4Salt & Todd how many other hatcheries in Washington completely block the small creeks or streams they draw their water supply from? What nearly every single one? Hey I'm not disagreeing with the need for change in the hatchery system...but I have to ask one question. If that obstruction on Tokul Creek was removed how many chinook would it produce...anyone got an answer? I'm talking returning spawners in light of all the other problems those fish would face. But to get back to the focus of Mikes initial post...I thought this was about salmon hatcheries and Washington Trout and not a specific axe to grind?