Beezy - follow along. No such claims were made. You still seem to think this is about sides or possibly which side might be "better". Both sides are utter chit and we all know it. I think I spelled that out earlier and you may have just missed it.

Pubs = chit ass criminals
Dems = chit ass criminals

Here's the point. Neither side can bring up any topic here without the other side resorting to calling names or being accused of being ballwashers. As soon as the opposite side is brought up, then it becomes about whataboutism.

There is no debate on merit. I guess my mistake was thinking that there could be a debate on merit in these here parts.