Another thing that is seldom talked about is fishing just to be fishing. In one Chehalis stream a staffer asked a guy what he was fishing for? ( bit off season for everything ) The responded nothing in particular just fishing to be fishing. I think I am paraphrasing a bit but the end result was they changed the regs so folks can not fish that way. You see for WDFW it is about dead fish with an exception. They are more than happy to set a season when most of the fish are not around. Conservation is the justification I was told but then so is C&R and seldom if ever is the REC fisher the cause of the shortage of fish. Outside of nature it is always marine fisheries or terminal commercial fisheries. That is the system and how WDFW views things.