I think a lot of the problem in the ocean has to do with other fisheries, but climate change is a biggie, too. I was not specifically referring to hatchery production but to the continued degradation of natural production through habitat destruction. I believe the State is scared spitless about the Tribes winning something broader than the culvert case. Like meaningful water pollution controls, floodplain restoration, intelligent logging (an oxymoron) and so on.

It would be nice for somebody to take the Feds on for their responsibility for fish production. I think, though, given the current slate of Supremes, that neither the State nor the Tribes want to get a definitive answer.

Seems that without the Tribes there would be no wild fish conservation (what little there is). You'll remember that the State argued before the Supremes that they could totally destroy a run for "progress".