I agree about him being a latecomer to the game, but that's the point. You cannot hold current employees responsible for decisions made before they came onto the scene anymore then you can hold them responsible for salmon problems that are beyond their control (i.e. current ocean conditions, over fishing by Alaska and Canada on WA. stocks , past logging practices, etc.etc.). To do so would be similar to holding children responsible for their parent's crimes. It's just not done. How long ago was the ball dropped on the Wynoochee hatchery? Who is still around to blame? My understanding was that it was a long time before the tribe had a positive outlook on cooperating on this project? All I am saying is that you need to be specific and have some knowledge about who and what to ask. My interactions with Larry have always been positive and as you all know I'm a real P.I.T.A. Bob